Comments on: A Pattern Language for action-inquiry, work-focused learning http://www.stephenp.net/2008/10/01/a-pattern-language-for-action-inquiry-work-focused-learning/ A specialist in inquiry-based, work-focussed, online supported learning Thu, 11 Mar 2010 01:32:01 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.7 hourly 1 By: Stephen Powell http://www.stephenp.net/2008/10/01/a-pattern-language-for-action-inquiry-work-focused-learning/comment-page-1/#comment-161084 Stephen Powell Thu, 19 Feb 2009 14:00:41 +0000 http://www.stephenp.net/?p=305#comment-161084 Hi Adam. We struggled long and hard about what might be called granularity - that is how far is it useful to break things down into sub-categories and also whether or not to use jargon like 'team teaching' that has a resonance with certain audiences but not with others. Point taken and when we attack the patterns again we will give it some thought - hopefully a paper published somewhere... The patterns emerged from Ultraversity and we are now 'testing them' against the MLWT experience. Hi Adam. We struggled long and hard about what might be called granularity - that is how far is it useful to break things down into sub-categories and also whether or not to use jargon like ‘team teaching’ that has a resonance with certain audiences but not with others. Point taken and when we attack the patterns again we will give it some thought - hopefully a paper published somewhere…

The patterns emerged from Ultraversity and we are now ‘testing them’ against the MLWT experience.

]]> By: Adam Cooper http://www.stephenp.net/2008/10/01/a-pattern-language-for-action-inquiry-work-focused-learning/comment-page-1/#comment-160593 Adam Cooper Mon, 16 Feb 2009 17:40:47 +0000 http://www.stephenp.net/?p=305#comment-160593 An interesting read and I wouldn't be so circumspect about the value of this. Yes, to a degree it is a presentation framework from the point of view of the author but it does usefully capture your wisdom and provides structure. I think explorations of pattern language applications like this are helpful to see how the hand-waving translates to hard written text and I think I'm in agreement with Tom that it is the smaller concepts that work better (for me as a reader). For example, "exhibition" seems clear, whereas "team teaching" is less so. Maybe this has something to do with the "team teaching" description cutting right across from admissions to marking or maybe it is because it has a lot more about the management of teaching and learning. Hmmm. Where I would differ from Tom is that I think a blog format is a useful means for gaining feedback on the exploration, whereas wikis (piggydb or semantic mediawiki) would be better in more of a production-mode. Your patterns would definitely help me to generate and talk about (as a language should) a planned course (etc) with either a learner or teacher speaking the same language. Without the logical grouping of stuff-that-works, we would have a lot more work to do. Imagine inviting someone to a dinner party without the widely understood, although undocumented, Dinner Party pattern, a derivative of the Party pattern. Are/were you in the practice of using the pattern names in the Ultraversity and Masters in Learning with Technology courses? It seems to me that, having exemplified the patterns in practice, you would have a language for teachers and learners to reflect on efficacy or negotiate etc Adam An interesting read and I wouldn’t be so circumspect about the value of this. Yes, to a degree it is a presentation framework from the point of view of the author but it does usefully capture your wisdom and provides structure.

I think explorations of pattern language applications like this are helpful to see how the hand-waving translates to hard written text and I think I’m in agreement with Tom that it is the smaller concepts that work better (for me as a reader). For example, “exhibition” seems clear, whereas “team teaching” is less so. Maybe this has something to do with the “team teaching” description cutting right across from admissions to marking or maybe it is because it has a lot more about the management of teaching and learning. Hmmm.

Where I would differ from Tom is that I think a blog format is a useful means for gaining feedback on the exploration, whereas wikis (piggydb or semantic mediawiki) would be better in more of a production-mode.

Your patterns would definitely help me to generate and talk about (as a language should) a planned course (etc) with either a learner or teacher speaking the same language. Without the logical grouping of stuff-that-works, we would have a lot more work to do. Imagine inviting someone to a dinner party without the widely understood, although undocumented, Dinner Party pattern, a derivative of the Party pattern.

Are/were you in the practice of using the pattern names in the Ultraversity and Masters in Learning with Technology courses? It seems to me that, having exemplified the patterns in practice, you would have a language for teachers and learners to reflect on efficacy or negotiate etc

Adam

]]> By: Stephen Powell http://www.stephenp.net/2008/10/01/a-pattern-language-for-action-inquiry-work-focused-learning/comment-page-1/#comment-127010 Stephen Powell Mon, 06 Oct 2008 15:49:59 +0000 http://www.stephenp.net/?p=305#comment-127010 Hi Tom, you are right we had an agenda to describe Ultrvaversity and going through the process has enabled us to do this which was worthwhile I think. And yes, lots and lots of small 'tips' could readily hand off these patterns. The blog software was a pragmatic choice, you mentioned before a wiki but I had nothing to hand, the apps you suggest look like they might be of use. I thought they were "catchy titles" :^) Ta, Stephen. Hi Tom, you are right we had an agenda to describe Ultrvaversity and going through the process has enabled us to do this which was worthwhile I think. And yes, lots and lots of small ‘tips’ could readily hand off these patterns. The blog software was a pragmatic choice, you mentioned before a wiki but I had nothing to hand, the apps you suggest look like they might be of use.

I thought they were “catchy titles” :^)

Ta, Stephen.

]]> By: Tom Smith http://www.stephenp.net/2008/10/01/a-pattern-language-for-action-inquiry-work-focused-learning/comment-page-1/#comment-126697 Tom Smith Sat, 04 Oct 2008 15:49:12 +0000 http://www.stephenp.net/?p=305#comment-126697 Ooh look at this... http://piggydb.devjavu.com/ Ooh look at this…
http://piggydb.devjavu.com/

]]> By: Tom Smith http://www.stephenp.net/2008/10/01/a-pattern-language-for-action-inquiry-work-focused-learning/comment-page-1/#comment-126695 Tom Smith Sat, 04 Oct 2008 15:32:30 +0000 http://www.stephenp.net/?p=305#comment-126695 I can see why you're finding it difficult and/or uninspiring. Can I make some suggestions? a. You seem to have started with to many "big picture" patterns... As if you have an agenda rather than tips to share (I don't mean that in a bad way). I'd recommend you throw in some smaller concepts (say tips that specifically help with "Team Teaching"... and see if they start to evolve the bigger picture for you... b. Try using a Wiki (with WikiWords) instead of a blog. Because related patterns aren't automatically linked, it becomes a bit of a pain to navigat/author the content. c. Every pattern shouldn't be related to every other pattern. d. Produce a lot more patterns, maybe using the "Barnstorming" pattern from here, http://www.wikipatterns.com/display/wikipatterns/Wikipatterns e. Provide more links as references. f. Put the "introduction" in the sidebar g. I found using VoodooPad (on my own) was more productive at the beginning of a project rather than an online tool, like a blog or wiki because it's a much quicker editing process. h. Catchier titles always help :-) I can see why you’re finding it difficult and/or uninspiring. Can I make some suggestions?

a. You seem to have started with to many “big picture” patterns… As if you have an agenda rather than tips to share (I don’t mean that in a bad way). I’d recommend you throw in some smaller concepts (say tips that specifically help with “Team Teaching”… and see if they start to evolve the bigger picture for you…
b. Try using a Wiki (with WikiWords) instead of a blog. Because related patterns aren’t automatically linked, it becomes a bit of a pain to navigat/author the content.
c. Every pattern shouldn’t be related to every other pattern.
d. Produce a lot more patterns, maybe using the “Barnstorming” pattern from here, http://www.wikipatterns.com/display/wikipatterns/Wikipatterns
e. Provide more links as references.
f. Put the “introduction” in the sidebar
g. I found using VoodooPad (on my own) was more productive at the beginning of a project rather than an online tool, like a blog or wiki because it’s a much quicker editing process.
h. Catchier titles always help :-)

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