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		<title>By: Tom Smith</title>
		<link>http://www.stephenp.net/2005/02/22/user-sophistication/#comment-356</link>
		<dc:creator>Tom Smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Mar 2005 02:42:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Re: the quadrant... If you add an element of time (1,2 3), understanding that people don't necessarily stay "simple" for long.... 
you can see that they can, after the first flush of romance, spend the rest of their lives in challenge and frustration... as they fail to 
cope with simple tools, fail to make feature rich tool do what the actually want...  maybe never finding alignment (or "oneness" as a hippy might mumble).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re: the quadrant&#8230; If you add an element of time (1,2 3), understanding that people don&#8217;t necessarily stay &#8220;simple&#8221; for long&#8230;.<br />
you can see that they can, after the first flush of romance, spend the rest of their lives in challenge and frustration&#8230; as they fail to<br />
cope with simple tools, fail to make feature rich tool do what the actually want&#8230;  maybe never finding alignment (or &#8220;oneness&#8221; as a hippy might mumble).</p>
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		<title>By: Stephen Powell</title>
		<link>http://www.stephenp.net/2005/02/22/user-sophistication/#comment-355</link>
		<dc:creator>Stephen Powell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Feb 2005 02:28:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Eve, true quadrant of challenge - I have changed it!:^)

I think that Richard was also addressing the point you make.  I can see how a feature rich tool could be well designed and easy to use and it could be the case that the Mac is a good example of that.  So it might be that the diagram needs refining. 

I suppose that a large degree of this is down to the individual in some way, that is one person's feature rich but simple is another persons complex and so on.....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Eve, true quadrant of challenge - I have changed it!:^)</p>
<p>I think that Richard was also addressing the point you make.  I can see how a feature rich tool could be well designed and easy to use and it could be the case that the Mac is a good example of that.  So it might be that the diagram needs refining. </p>
<p>I suppose that a large degree of this is down to the individual in some way, that is one person&#8217;s feature rich but simple is another persons complex and so on&#8230;..</p>
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		<title>By: Eve Thirkle</title>
		<link>http://www.stephenp.net/2005/02/22/user-sophistication/#comment-354</link>
		<dc:creator>Eve Thirkle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Feb 2005 19:08:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What about the use of 'intuition' in the design of tools - I moved from a PC to a Mac last summer - a dreadful struggle at first but only because the Mac was so easy to use, intuitive in the way that it works. 

In a way I entered the quadrant of 'conflict' - thought you didn't like that word? - as sophisticated user vs simple tools - now however I an an anomaly with regards to your diagram - sophisticated user using simple yet feature rich tools.

Do we need to look to the fact that designers are very comfortable with the tools that they design - they need to perhaps survey a wider range of users?

Do feature rich tools necessarily need to produce an area of conflict for simple users?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What about the use of &#8216;intuition&#8217; in the design of tools - I moved from a PC to a Mac last summer - a dreadful struggle at first but only because the Mac was so easy to use, intuitive in the way that it works. </p>
<p>In a way I entered the quadrant of &#8216;conflict&#8217; - thought you didn&#8217;t like that word? - as sophisticated user vs simple tools - now however I an an anomaly with regards to your diagram - sophisticated user using simple yet feature rich tools.</p>
<p>Do we need to look to the fact that designers are very comfortable with the tools that they design - they need to perhaps survey a wider range of users?</p>
<p>Do feature rich tools necessarily need to produce an area of conflict for simple users?</p>
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		<title>By: Stephen Powell</title>
		<link>http://www.stephenp.net/2005/02/22/user-sophistication/#comment-353</link>
		<dc:creator>Stephen Powell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Feb 2005 02:49:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes Richard I think we are all sophisticated users of tools at times, and that is the point I was attempting to make.  However, sometimes this is not the case and it isn't necessarily the design of the tools (although this can often be the case) but that they are not the tool fool for the job.  For example, a Ferrari formula 1 racing is a piece of exquisite design and engineering but I wouldn't expect you to learn how to drive it to pop round the corner shop.

Hi Salena, a good point and I think Richard was hinting at this.  So if the tools are good, they enable us to adopt them even if they are powerful and complicated because of the functionality they possess.  I can't build the kinds of tools we use, but I hope the developers who do have the end users like us at the forefront of their deliberations.

Hi Gina, I do think that we have different levels of affinity for things, not just online.  For example, some of us are in love with mobile phones, others wish they hade never been invented.  The case of the Dad who can't use the video player so he asks the kids is an oft cited example also.  However given the different levels of affinity, if the tools are good then the barriers should not be so great that we can't all use them and if they are then the technology probably isn't worth it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes Richard I think we are all sophisticated users of tools at times, and that is the point I was attempting to make.  However, sometimes this is not the case and it isn&#8217;t necessarily the design of the tools (although this can often be the case) but that they are not the tool fool for the job.  For example, a Ferrari formula 1 racing is a piece of exquisite design and engineering but I wouldn&#8217;t expect you to learn how to drive it to pop round the corner shop.</p>
<p>Hi Salena, a good point and I think Richard was hinting at this.  So if the tools are good, they enable us to adopt them even if they are powerful and complicated because of the functionality they possess.  I can&#8217;t build the kinds of tools we use, but I hope the developers who do have the end users like us at the forefront of their deliberations.</p>
<p>Hi Gina, I do think that we have different levels of affinity for things, not just online.  For example, some of us are in love with mobile phones, others wish they hade never been invented.  The case of the Dad who can&#8217;t use the video player so he asks the kids is an oft cited example also.  However given the different levels of affinity, if the tools are good then the barriers should not be so great that we can&#8217;t all use them and if they are then the technology probably isn&#8217;t worth it.</p>
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		<title>By: Gina</title>
		<link>http://www.stephenp.net/2005/02/22/user-sophistication/#comment-352</link>
		<dc:creator>Gina</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Feb 2005 19:17:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes - purpose is key. If I don't see a use for using something I just can't be bothered. And no matter how wonderful the tool is, or how many other people rave over it, if it doesn't suit my purpose, I'm not interested. 

And purpose is constantly changing as you say.

An interesting point - do you think though some people are naturally more talented though at using tools such as VLEs and blogs? I know it's complex - it's a mix of a person's experience, knowledge, time, desire, confidence, intelligence, learning style....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes - purpose is key. If I don&#8217;t see a use for using something I just can&#8217;t be bothered. And no matter how wonderful the tool is, or how many other people rave over it, if it doesn&#8217;t suit my purpose, I&#8217;m not interested. </p>
<p>And purpose is constantly changing as you say.</p>
<p>An interesting point - do you think though some people are naturally more talented though at using tools such as VLEs and blogs? I know it&#8217;s complex - it&#8217;s a mix of a person&#8217;s experience, knowledge, time, desire, confidence, intelligence, learning style&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Salena</title>
		<link>http://www.stephenp.net/2005/02/22/user-sophistication/#comment-351</link>
		<dc:creator>Salena</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Feb 2005 18:07:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I like the diagram Stephen it is very clear. I would suggest that the middle section of this diagram is where the most thought is needed. For me, I am becoming a "better" user, moving from a simple user point towards the goal of sophisticated user, however even in a situation where there is a strong pull (attainment of a degree)this can be difficult to achieve due to factors such as time, learning style, coming from years of being unfamiliar with the skills and in particular terminology needed to become a sophisticated user. Can the tools be structured to help users achieve this progression do you think?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like the diagram Stephen it is very clear. I would suggest that the middle section of this diagram is where the most thought is needed. For me, I am becoming a &#8220;better&#8221; user, moving from a simple user point towards the goal of sophisticated user, however even in a situation where there is a strong pull (attainment of a degree)this can be difficult to achieve due to factors such as time, learning style, coming from years of being unfamiliar with the skills and in particular terminology needed to become a sophisticated user. Can the tools be structured to help users achieve this progression do you think?</p>
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		<title>By: Richard Millwood</title>
		<link>http://www.stephenp.net/2005/02/22/user-sophistication/#comment-350</link>
		<dc:creator>Richard Millwood</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Feb 2005 15:55:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So would you subscribe to Stan Ower's view, http://www.ultralab.net/tools , that our civilisation is founded on a culture of tools and that we are both tool-users and tool-makers? Surely, then, we are all sophisticated users, but not necessarily willing to put up with poorly designed tools. Many of us are successful car-drivers, but we wouldn't tolerate a car that made our lives more complex than necessary.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So would you subscribe to Stan Ower&#8217;s view, <a href="http://www.ultralab.net/tools" rel="nofollow">http://www.ultralab.net/tools</a> , that our civilisation is founded on a culture of tools and that we are both tool-users and tool-makers? Surely, then, we are all sophisticated users, but not necessarily willing to put up with poorly designed tools. Many of us are successful car-drivers, but we wouldn&#8217;t tolerate a car that made our lives more complex than necessary.</p>
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