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	<title>Comments on: Apache and OSS</title>
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		<title>By: Stephen Powell</title>
		<link>http://www.stephenp.net/2005/01/22/apache-and-oss/comment-page-1/#comment-329</link>
		<dc:creator>Stephen Powell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Jan 2005 19:17:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry I got that wrong David, great that you can correct me though:^)  

Interesting Andy, this is real community of practice ala &lt;a HREF=&quot;http://www.ewenger.com/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt; Etienne Wenger &lt;/a&gt;  (1998).  There is a clearly defined domain that folk are passionate about, a common set of practices, and a strong community founded on an apprentice model.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry I got that wrong David, great that you can correct me though:^)  </p>
<p>Interesting Andy, this is real community of practice ala <a HREF="http://www.ewenger.com/" rel="nofollow"> Etienne Wenger </a>  (1998).  There is a clearly defined domain that folk are passionate about, a common set of practices, and a strong community founded on an apprentice model.</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew Savory</title>
		<link>http://www.stephenp.net/2005/01/22/apache-and-oss/comment-page-1/#comment-328</link>
		<dc:creator>Andrew Savory</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Jan 2005 19:05:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think most Cocoon people would argue David is very much a part of the community, particularly since he played piano at a Cocoon developer&#039;s conference!

One of the interesting things about the OSS communities springing up is that it&#039;s not all focussed on who writes the best code: long-term involvement and creative input in whatever form is as important as how many lines you&#039;ve written.

In fact, the ASF emphasises community over and above code: unless there&#039;s an active group of people surrounding a project, it won&#039;t continue. This is why Apache has a high success rate of live projects vs. somewhere like Sourceforge, where there&#039;s an awful lot of abandoned code.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think most Cocoon people would argue David is very much a part of the community, particularly since he played piano at a Cocoon developer&#8217;s conference!</p>
<p>One of the interesting things about the OSS communities springing up is that it&#8217;s not all focussed on who writes the best code: long-term involvement and creative input in whatever form is as important as how many lines you&#8217;ve written.</p>
<p>In fact, the ASF emphasises community over and above code: unless there&#8217;s an active group of people surrounding a project, it won&#8217;t continue. This is why Apache has a high success rate of live projects vs. somewhere like Sourceforge, where there&#8217;s an awful lot of abandoned code.</p>
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		<title>By: David Plans Casal</title>
		<link>http://www.stephenp.net/2005/01/22/apache-and-oss/comment-page-1/#comment-327</link>
		<dc:creator>David Plans Casal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Jan 2005 19:00:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For an illustration of this, see:

http://www.apache.org/foundation/how-it-works.html

So I&#039;m a &#039;user&#039;, in that scheme.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For an illustration of this, see:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.apache.org/foundation/how-it-works.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.apache.org/foundation/how-it-works.html</a></p>
<p>So I&#8217;m a &#8216;user&#8217;, in that scheme.</p>
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		<title>By: David Plans Casal</title>
		<link>http://www.stephenp.net/2005/01/22/apache-and-oss/comment-page-1/#comment-326</link>
		<dc:creator>David Plans Casal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Jan 2005 18:58:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In must be pointed out here that while I do a lot of work in and out of the ASF because of our (Luminas) involvement in its projects, I&#039;m an evangelist as opposed to a committer. So, in comparison to serious programmers who are recognised members of the ASF, I&#039;m an outsider. Just so that&#039;s clear, since I don&#039;t want to misrepresent myself as a serious contributor to the codebase.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In must be pointed out here that while I do a lot of work in and out of the ASF because of our (Luminas) involvement in its projects, I&#8217;m an evangelist as opposed to a committer. So, in comparison to serious programmers who are recognised members of the ASF, I&#8217;m an outsider. Just so that&#8217;s clear, since I don&#8217;t want to misrepresent myself as a serious contributor to the codebase.</p>
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		<title>By: Mu</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Jan 2005 14:03:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>sounds like an interesting workshop Stephen,

i think a lot of my work and knowledge gained is based on tapping into the knowledge that these OSS communities share with one another.  great to hear the trends about OSS - good sign for communites that can&#039;t afford proprietary solutions,</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>sounds like an interesting workshop Stephen,</p>
<p>i think a lot of my work and knowledge gained is based on tapping into the knowledge that these OSS communities share with one another.  great to hear the trends about OSS &#8211; good sign for communites that can&#8217;t afford proprietary solutions,</p>
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		<title>By: Stephen Powell</title>
		<link>http://www.stephenp.net/2005/01/22/apache-and-oss/comment-page-1/#comment-324</link>
		<dc:creator>Stephen Powell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Jan 2005 00:58:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ah yes, that diagram:^)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ah yes, that diagram:^)</p>
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		<title>By: Eve Thirkle</title>
		<link>http://www.stephenp.net/2005/01/22/apache-and-oss/comment-page-1/#comment-323</link>
		<dc:creator>Eve Thirkle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Jan 2005 22:35:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What diagram?
:^)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What diagram?<br />
:^)</p>
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